Comments on: Video Game Violence, AO, Manhunt and More, Part 2 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/ A technical, gaming and current-events news site Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:41:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Riyad Kalla http://www.breakitdownblog.com/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10192 Riyad Kalla Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:54:07 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/2007/10/19/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/#comment-10192 Jan, We certainly appreciate you stopping by and leaving your thoughts on the topic. I waffle on this topic with myself constantly... my gut tells me that it's all connected... how can you have an 11-year-old murder people with a chainsaw in a game and be better off for it? I'm not sure. But on the flip side, I am drawn to that stuff (along with a massive majority of men) as long as it's clearly for fun/fake... it's sort of like the difference between watching Dead Alive and laughing your ass off as a lawn mower cuts a guy in half versus watching Faces of Death where it could be real and you are watching something horrific and want to throw up. The thing of it is... I have no idea why I'm so entertained by fake violence, and I don't know if there would be any detriment to it not being there... for example, would I find aggressive outlets else where? I really don't know... hence all the waffling back and forth. I'd really have to see some consistent science on this with child development to help me finally make up my mind... but yes it does seem that we sure do like destruction, on many different levels, as a species... I don't know why. Jan,
We certainly appreciate you stopping by and leaving your thoughts on the topic.

I waffle on this topic with myself constantly… my gut tells me that it’s all connected… how can you have an 11-year-old murder people with a chainsaw in a game and be better off for it? I’m not sure.

But on the flip side, I am drawn to that stuff (along with a massive majority of men) as long as it’s clearly for fun/fake… it’s sort of like the difference between watching Dead Alive and laughing your ass off as a lawn mower cuts a guy in half versus watching Faces of Death where it could be real and you are watching something horrific and want to throw up.

The thing of it is… I have no idea why I’m so entertained by fake violence, and I don’t know if there would be any detriment to it not being there… for example, would I find aggressive outlets else where?

I really don’t know… hence all the waffling back and forth.

I’d really have to see some consistent science on this with child development to help me finally make up my mind… but yes it does seem that we sure do like destruction, on many different levels, as a species… I don’t know why.

]]> By: Jan http://www.breakitdownblog.com/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10190 Jan Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:59:34 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/2007/10/19/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/#comment-10190 For a piece written in late 2007 to address an issue in such a rounded way, that caught my attention while I was googling and surfing for `Firefox being useless' means things are getting random these days. However I won't leave without stating that I believe 100% that the genre of fps that promotes gore and dragged out torture is way way too popular to be healthy. Frankly I don't care for gore fests. I do play BF2 occasionally but my main thing is simulations. It is so very clear that the decreasing avenues of public freedom for kids, less caring parents, the everyday stress of western world survival and the proliferation of fps gore fests and games of extreme violence are inextricably linked. We are systemtically destined to self destruction as a race it would appear, and that is entirely my standpoint until such time as enough is enough for the majority and we do actually stand up and take notice of what is going on around us. Gore fest games promoting violence should be controlled, and I think the minimum age should be raised for them to at least 21 yrs. Classification is also strictly important of such games, and to that end it should be made absolutely clear on packaging and merchandise/advertising that just as a movie with explicit sexual content is controlled, the very same (if not more) should be applied to games, films and entertainment which graphically glorify in detail extreme horrific killing. Complacency is the only worse killer. And this makes me extremely sad to have witnessed on an almost daily basis the decline of morality and respect. For a piece written in late 2007 to address an issue in such a rounded way, that caught my attention while I was googling and surfing for `Firefox being useless’ means things are getting random these days.

However I won’t leave without stating that I believe 100% that the genre of fps that promotes gore and dragged out torture is way way too popular to be healthy. Frankly I don’t care for gore fests. I do play BF2 occasionally but my main thing is simulations. It is so very clear that the decreasing avenues of public freedom for kids, less caring parents, the everyday stress of western world survival and the proliferation of fps gore fests and games of extreme violence are inextricably linked.

We are systemtically destined to self destruction as a race it would appear, and that is entirely my standpoint until such time as enough is enough for the majority and we do actually stand up and take notice of what is going on around us. Gore fest games promoting violence should be controlled, and I think the minimum age should be raised for them to at least 21 yrs. Classification is also strictly important of such games, and to that end it should be made absolutely clear on packaging and merchandise/advertising that just as a movie with explicit sexual content is controlled, the very same (if not more) should be applied to games, films and entertainment which graphically glorify in detail extreme horrific killing.

Complacency is the only worse killer. And this makes me extremely sad to have witnessed on an almost daily basis the decline of morality and respect.

]]> By: Riyad Kalla http://www.breakitdownblog.com/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10042 Riyad Kalla Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:34:38 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/2007/10/19/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/#comment-10042 Ratul, That is true... I am playing Manhunt 2 now and I mean... it technically has a story, but it's just there to hold up the insane violence... so far from what I can tell you are in an asylum that breeds people for violent military operations or something... or maybe it's the whole death-sport thing again from #1? Not sure. Ratul,
That is true… I am playing Manhunt 2 now and I mean… it technically has a story, but it’s just there to hold up the insane violence… so far from what I can tell you are in an asylum that breeds people for violent military operations or something… or maybe it’s the whole death-sport thing again from #1? Not sure.

]]> By: Ratul http://www.breakitdownblog.com/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10040 Ratul Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:31:33 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/2007/10/19/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/#comment-10040 Manhunt(1+2) don't have a storyline. Even clive b's Jericho had a moderate storyline which made the gore a little ......acceptable(in a b grade hack & slash movie kind'a way) Manhunt(1+2) don’t have a storyline. Even clive b’s Jericho had a moderate storyline which made the gore a little ……acceptable(in a b grade hack & slash movie kind’a way)

]]> By: Riyad Kalla http://www.breakitdownblog.com/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9890 Riyad Kalla Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:36:28 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/2007/10/19/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/#comment-9890 evan interesting point, I had heard that there was almost no story to Manhunt 1/2 but the gore is what saved it... wasn't the story for #1 just a maniac that puts you in a crazy life-or-death game? evan interesting point, I had heard that there was almost no story to Manhunt 1/2 but the gore is what saved it… wasn’t the story for #1 just a maniac that puts you in a crazy life-or-death game?

]]> By: evan http://www.breakitdownblog.com/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9883 evan Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:11:26 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/2007/10/19/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/#comment-9883 I really don't like gore. I think the gore in games like Gears and movies like Friday the 13th is just silly. However, Manhunt (both 1 + 2) are good, dark, horrific, but very well written stories. I really don’t like gore. I think the gore in games like Gears and movies like Friday the 13th is just silly. However, Manhunt (both 1 + 2) are good, dark, horrific, but very well written stories.

]]> By: Blackdragon84 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9178 Blackdragon84 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:09:36 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/2007/10/19/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/#comment-9178 this debate has been going on ever since back in the days when doom first came out. (mortal kombat was one of the games that made the government step in and make a ratings board to keep this sort of thing in check) and i agree that the amount of gore in games like manhunt 2 is a bit much but on the other side of the coin here you got guys like ol jack Thompson who every time he hears about a school shooting or some other real violence and hears that the people involved played a violent game at some point in life he goes ape$^%$ and demands that all violent games be baned and censored. and so i take this argument and look at it this way violence in a game is ok to a point but when the violence IS the game then theres a issue to be had. i just wish ol jack would realize this and go after only the big time gore machines rather then every video game thug. this debate has been going on ever since back in the days when doom first came out. (mortal kombat was one of the games that made the government step in and make a ratings board to keep this sort of thing in check) and i agree that the amount of gore in games like manhunt 2 is a bit much but on the other side of the coin here you got guys like ol jack Thompson who every time he hears about a school shooting or some other real violence and hears that the people involved played a violent game at some point in life he goes ape$^%$ and demands that all violent games be baned and censored. and so i take this argument and look at it this way violence in a game is ok to a point but when the violence IS the game then theres a issue to be had. i just wish ol jack would realize this and go after only the big time gore machines rather then every video game thug.

]]> By: The Bird Man http://www.breakitdownblog.com/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6253 The Bird Man Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:50:58 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/2007/10/19/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/#comment-6253 I think killing in games is fine, but acctually taking pleasure in inflicting pain in torturous ways is fucked up. I think killing in games is fine, but acctually taking pleasure in inflicting pain in torturous ways is fucked up.

]]> By: The “Break it Down” Blog » Blog Archive » Video Game Violence, AO, Manhunt and More, Part 1 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6221 The “Break it Down” Blog » Blog Archive » Video Game Violence, AO, Manhunt and More, Part 1 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:00:21 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/2007/10/19/video-game-violence-ao-manhunt-and-more-part-2/#comment-6221 [...] got me thinking… I will post my thoughts in Part 2 of Video Game Violence, AO, Manhunt and More… [...] [...] got me thinking… I will post my thoughts in Part 2 of Video Game Violence, AO, Manhunt and More… [...]

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