Comments on: NETGEAR Releases XAVB101 & HDXB111 200 Mbps Powerline Adapters http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/ A technical, gaming and current-events news site Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:00:42 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Riyad Kalla http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-13845 Riyad Kalla Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:49:47 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-13845 Sportdeck, Thank you for taking the time to followup with regard to these adapters. That has been my experience with Powerline tech as well which is why I've been hoping-beyond-hope that they either figure out a way to get it acting like ethernet and not have that insane amount of attenuation, or boost the spec to something like 500mbps so the "real world" will be closer to actual 200mbps. Any more experimentation you do, we'd love to know about. Sportdeck,

Thank you for taking the time to followup with regard to these adapters. That has been my experience with Powerline tech as well which is why I’ve been hoping-beyond-hope that they either figure out a way to get it acting like ethernet and not have that insane amount of attenuation, or boost the spec to something like 500mbps so the “real world” will be closer to actual 200mbps.

Any more experimentation you do, we’d love to know about.

]]> By: Sportdeck http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-13837 Sportdeck Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:26:25 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-13837 I bought a HDXB 101 kit today and plugged them in with high expectations. When I loaded the supplied configuration software, and the remote adapter was connected at 25Mbps and was unable to stream video to My Xbox 360 or to my IPTV Settop box. I then moved the remote adapter into the same room (circuit) as the adapter connected to my router and it was connected at 100Mbps. But that defeats the purpose, as I could have just run a cat5 cable to the same location in the room for $5 instead of $100 for the kit. Just as a comparison, I put the remote adapter into the top half of the electrical outlet that had the local adapter plugged into the bottom half of the outlet, another words, only an inch or less of copper was connecting the two adapters in the same outlet. The software said the remote was connected at 165Mbps. Bottom line, expect a lot less than the box advertises. I'll play around with this some more tomorrow, but if I can't get it to work for my Xbox or IPTC settop box, it's going back! I bought a HDXB 101 kit today and plugged them in with high expectations. When I loaded the supplied configuration software, and the remote adapter was connected at 25Mbps and was unable to stream video to My Xbox 360 or to my IPTV Settop box. I then moved the remote adapter into the same room (circuit) as the adapter connected to my router and it was connected at 100Mbps. But that defeats the purpose, as I could have just run a cat5 cable to the same location in the room for $5 instead of $100 for the kit. Just as a comparison, I put the remote adapter into the top half of the electrical outlet that had the local adapter plugged into the bottom half of the outlet, another words, only an inch or less of copper was connecting the two adapters in the same outlet. The software said the remote was connected at 165Mbps. Bottom line, expect a lot less than the box advertises. I’ll play around with this some more tomorrow, but if I can’t get it to work for my Xbox or IPTC settop box, it’s going back!

]]> By: desmolift http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-13757 desmolift Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:25:37 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-13757 Yes, I am aware of the actual bandwidth, the Homeplug 1.0 devices seem to be around 50mb/s and the Homeplug AV devices are around 80-100 mb/s. Homeplug AV2 looks like its targeting 600mb/s. I actually haven't played around with these devices yet, just been reading about them. I am designing an HD megapixel network camera surveillance system and was looking at networking options; wireless, powerline and ethernet. Yes, I am aware of the actual bandwidth, the Homeplug 1.0 devices seem to be around 50mb/s and the Homeplug AV devices are around 80-100 mb/s. Homeplug AV2 looks like its targeting 600mb/s. I actually haven’t played around with these devices yet, just been reading about them. I am designing an HD megapixel network camera surveillance system and was looking at networking options; wireless, powerline and ethernet.

]]> By: Riyad Kalla http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-13756 Riyad Kalla Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:58:49 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-13756 desmolift, Thanks for the extra data -- didn't know about this. Also I lean towards what you said, not expecting 200Mb/s per pair here, but more likely shared on that entire circuit. I'd also point out (not sure how much you have played with powerline adapters in the past) that the theoretical speeds and actual speeds are drastically different, more than likely in normal conditions I would count on getting around 100 Mb/sec total performance on that network. That's one of the (unfortunate) reasons that I'm not super-pumped about HomePlug 1.0 devices and keep praying that these new <a href="http://www.breakitdownblog.com/homeplug-powerline-av-ii-spec-nearing-release/" rel="nofollow">upcoming HomePlug AV II spec</a> devices will be able to operate at a much higher level, offering some serious home-networking potential for folks that want it without the wiring or wireless concerns. desmolift,

Thanks for the extra data — didn’t know about this. Also I lean towards what you said, not expecting 200Mb/s per pair here, but more likely shared on that entire circuit.

I’d also point out (not sure how much you have played with powerline adapters in the past) that the theoretical speeds and actual speeds are drastically different, more than likely in normal conditions I would count on getting around 100 Mb/sec total performance on that network. That’s one of the (unfortunate) reasons that I’m not super-pumped about HomePlug 1.0 devices and keep praying that these new upcoming HomePlug AV II spec devices will be able to operate at a much higher level, offering some serious home-networking potential for folks that want it without the wiring or wireless concerns.

]]> By: desmolift http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-13755 desmolift Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:43:46 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-13755 Yes exactly. I have been reading the spec on Homeplug AV. Seems it is spec'd to create and work with multiple LANs, they refer to them as AVLN's (AV Logical Netowrks) and NN's (Neighboring Networks). The Central Coordinator (CCo) is suppose to deal with this and create separate and independant networks using the membership key. But it sounds like the bandwidth of the network is shared between the networks. So, I think, but I am not sure the way to think of this is a 200Mb/s backbone network that supports VLANs. So, I don't believe I get 200Mb/s per pair. I posed the question to Netgear but have not received a reply. Yes exactly. I have been reading the spec on Homeplug AV. Seems it is spec’d to create and work with multiple LANs, they refer to them as AVLN’s (AV Logical Netowrks) and NN’s (Neighboring Networks). The Central Coordinator (CCo) is suppose to deal with this and create separate and independant networks using the membership key. But it sounds like the bandwidth of the network is shared between the networks. So, I think, but I am not sure the way to think of this is a 200Mb/s backbone network that supports VLANs. So, I don’t believe I get 200Mb/s per pair. I posed the question to Netgear but have not received a reply.

]]> By: Riyad Kalla http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-13752 Riyad Kalla Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:27:59 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-13752 desmolift, you mean take 4 of them, and make 2 networks, where 2 are paired together and 2 others are paired together in a *separate* network? I've never seen anyone do that with Powerline adapters, and I'm not sure what control you have over them to change their IPs and subnets to create alternative networks. Sorry :( desmolift, you mean take 4 of them, and make 2 networks, where 2 are paired together and 2 others are paired together in a *separate* network?

I’ve never seen anyone do that with Powerline adapters, and I’m not sure what control you have over them to change their IPs and subnets to create alternative networks.

Sorry :(

]]> By: desmolift http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-13745 desmolift Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:56:26 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-13745 I understand it makes it a LAN, the question is, can it be used to make many LANs, if so, how many and what is the performance of each LAN? I understand it makes it a LAN, the question is, can it be used to make many LANs, if so, how many and what is the performance of each LAN?

]]> By: Anet Dunne http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-13744 Anet Dunne Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:53:07 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-13744 You can use multiple ones. It just makes your household wiring a LAN. You can use multiple ones. It just makes your household wiring a LAN.

]]> By: desmolift http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-13742 desmolift Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:13:18 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-13742 What I would like to know and can't seem to find is... Can I have multiple pairs of these things, thereby creating multiple 200mb/s networks? Or is the powerline backbone just that, a shared network of 200 mb/s? What I would like to know and can’t seem to find is… Can I have multiple pairs of these things, thereby creating multiple 200mb/s networks? Or is the powerline backbone just that, a shared network of 200 mb/s?

]]> By: Panasonic Set to Release New Powerline Adapters at CES | The "Break it Down" Blog http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-13451 Panasonic Set to Release New Powerline Adapters at CES | The "Break it Down" Blog Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:16:34 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-13451 [...] NETGEAR’s recent announcement of refreshed 200mbps Powerline adapters was nice for the Powerline industry at large, it [...] [...] NETGEAR’s recent announcement of refreshed 200mbps Powerline adapters was nice for the Powerline industry at large, it [...]

]]> By: Anet Dunne http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-12451 Anet Dunne Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:40:06 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-12451 I just got a new, custom desktop computer. Ubuntu linux and XP. I am really resisting Vista and doing everything I can to move to linux. The free TiVo desktop program accurately showed the transfer time for each HD program. Apparently, I can play the TiVo programs on my computer if I will submit to the invasive questions required to set up Windows Movie Viewer. I am resisting because I did not have to answer those questions before in order to use the program. I guess I'm just resisting Microsoft in general. I just got a new, custom desktop computer. Ubuntu linux and XP. I am really resisting Vista and doing everything I can to move to linux. The free TiVo desktop program accurately showed the transfer time for each HD program. Apparently, I can play the TiVo programs on my computer if I will submit to the invasive questions required to set up Windows Movie Viewer. I am resisting because I did not have to answer those questions before in order to use the program. I guess I’m just resisting Microsoft in general.

]]> By: Riyad Kalla http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-12449 Riyad Kalla Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:40:50 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-12449 Anet, Were you on Vista, could you expand the "details" box to see how fast it was transfering? Anet,

Were you on Vista, could you expand the “details” box to see how fast it was transfering?

]]> By: Anet Dunne http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-12445 Anet Dunne Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:48:50 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-12445 I had a bunch of HD programs on my TiVo that I wanted to keep, but I needed to move them onto my computer to free up space on the TiVo. I ordered the XAV101 Powerline AV Ethernet Adapter online from Netgear and it arrived promptly. I plugged one unit into my Comcast cable modem and the other into my TiVo in another room. It works great! But it takes two hours to move a one-hour HD program. I had a bunch of HD programs on my TiVo that I wanted to keep, but I needed to move them onto my computer to free up space on the TiVo. I ordered the XAV101 Powerline AV Ethernet Adapter online from Netgear and it arrived promptly. I plugged one unit into my Comcast cable modem and the other into my TiVo in another room. It works great! But it takes two hours to move a one-hour HD program.

]]> By: Riyad Kalla http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-12307 Riyad Kalla Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:29:25 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-12307 Agreed... especially with Wireless-N getting ready to come out of draft and offering more performance/convenience, I think these things should be atleast priced down around $50 a pop, and even that feels generous. I wouldn't mind paying the $70/80 each for a GB solution, but for a theoretical 200 Mbps which is actually more like 50 in practice... meh... waste of money. Agreed… especially with Wireless-N getting ready to come out of draft and offering more performance/convenience, I think these things should be atleast priced down around $50 a pop, and even that feels generous. I wouldn’t mind paying the $70/80 each for a GB solution, but for a theoretical 200 Mbps which is actually more like 50 in practice… meh… waste of money.

]]> By: Jigsaw hc http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netgear-releases-xavb101-hdxb111-200-mbps-powerline-adapters/comment-page-1/#comment-12304 Jigsaw hc Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:35:14 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=4870#comment-12304 I appreciate that these make connecting about anything in your house simple and easy, but for that price I'd rather run some Cat5 cable. Still, it is nice that these are getting better. I appreciate that these make connecting about anything in your house simple and easy, but for that price I’d rather run some Cat5 cable. Still, it is nice that these are getting better.

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