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	<title>Comments on: Netflix Throttling Instant Video Streaming Performance for Viewers</title>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-18393</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not NETFLIX that is the cause of your problems, rather it is the ISP.  ISPs are oversubscribed on bandwidth per customer.  In other words, if every customer attempted to take advantage of their allotted bandwidth then everything would come to a screeching halt.  Based upon an ISPs customer base and new multimedia services such as Netflix, along with all the others like YouTube, downloads, flash video in general, radio, etc.  The ISP cannot sustain the demands.  Since most ISPs generally speaking cannot instantly add more bandwidth due to their infrastructure or inherent costs, they have to sometimes shape the traffic to conserve what bandwidth they have.  One can shape the bandwidth based upon a number of factors, but overall a shaping rule is applied per flow or rather conversation.  That is why you could add more bandwidth with simultaneous downloads, because it was not based upon who you were but rather where each conversation was going to and type of download.  Obviously as you have already stated, there was no bandwidth restriction.  I have worked with bandwidth shaping devices, and your streaming results and other download tests have this type of signature written all over it.  Cannot tell you what the next move should be, but your efforts may be better served in another direction.  Best of luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not NETFLIX that is the cause of your problems, rather it is the ISP.  ISPs are oversubscribed on bandwidth per customer.  In other words, if every customer attempted to take advantage of their allotted bandwidth then everything would come to a screeching halt.  Based upon an ISPs customer base and new multimedia services such as Netflix, along with all the others like YouTube, downloads, flash video in general, radio, etc.  The ISP cannot sustain the demands.  Since most ISPs generally speaking cannot instantly add more bandwidth due to their infrastructure or inherent costs, they have to sometimes shape the traffic to conserve what bandwidth they have.  One can shape the bandwidth based upon a number of factors, but overall a shaping rule is applied per flow or rather conversation.  That is why you could add more bandwidth with simultaneous downloads, because it was not based upon who you were but rather where each conversation was going to and type of download.  Obviously as you have already stated, there was no bandwidth restriction.  I have worked with bandwidth shaping devices, and your streaming results and other download tests have this type of signature written all over it.  Cannot tell you what the next move should be, but your efforts may be better served in another direction.  Best of luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Thanny</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-17888</link>
		<dc:creator>Thanny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is quite an old post, but I found it while searching for something tangentially related.

It&#039;s kind of funny that no one pointed out the obvious fact that the route trace you pasted in shows packet loss.  That&#039;s what the asterisk in place of a ping time means.  Dropped packets can easily kill throughput.

In any case, I never had any streaming problems with 5Mbps DSL, or my current 30MBps cable, either on my PC or on my Roku.

There&#039;s more than a tad of irrational paranoia being displayed here about nasty, mean, sinister Netflix.

PS.  I also never had Netflix throttle my discs, and easily got below $2 per rental in many months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is quite an old post, but I found it while searching for something tangentially related.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of funny that no one pointed out the obvious fact that the route trace you pasted in shows packet loss.  That&#8217;s what the asterisk in place of a ping time means.  Dropped packets can easily kill throughput.</p>
<p>In any case, I never had any streaming problems with 5Mbps DSL, or my current 30MBps cable, either on my PC or on my Roku.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s more than a tad of irrational paranoia being displayed here about nasty, mean, sinister Netflix.</p>
<p>PS.  I also never had Netflix throttle my discs, and easily got below $2 per rental in many months.</p>
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		<title>By: Netflix Neutrality &#124; techlobbyist</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-17252</link>
		<dc:creator>Netflix Neutrality &#124; techlobbyist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] little over a week ago, Netflix was berated by a user who assumed that the company was throttling his streaming video connection. Slashdot picked up the story shortly afterwards, and an Engadget piece was soon to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Technology for Mortals &#187; Alleged Netflix &#8220;deliberate throttling&#8221; conspiracy is normal congestion</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-16916</link>
		<dc:creator>Technology for Mortals &#187; Alleged Netflix &#8220;deliberate throttling&#8221; conspiracy is normal congestion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] folks at breakitdownblog.com have accused Netflix of deliberately&#160;throttling their users to 480 Kbps (60 KB/sec).&#160; Their proof?&#160; Downloading a video stream using 10 TCP flows is 10 times faster than [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] folks at breakitdownblog.com have accused Netflix of deliberately&nbsp;throttling their users to 480 Kbps (60 KB/sec).&nbsp; Their proof?&nbsp; Downloading a video stream using 10 TCP flows is 10 times faster than [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Netflix Throttling Instant Video Streaming &#124; news technology blogger wordpress tips</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-16587</link>
		<dc:creator>Netflix Throttling Instant Video Streaming &#124; news technology blogger wordpress tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &amp;#112l&amp;#97yer, I set out to figure out why &amp;#112l&amp;#97yb&amp;#97c&amp;#107 w&amp;#97s so slow. It seems th&amp;#97t Netfl&amp;#105x &amp;#105s s&amp;#105gn&amp;#105f&amp;#105cantly throttl&amp;#105ng Watch Instantly users (on t&amp;#104e &amp;#80C) &amp;#100own [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Crystal L</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-16411</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 00:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read all the comments but would like to tell you how I&#039;ve solved this particular problem.  When the Netflix player tells me my connection speed is too slow, and I&#039;ll have to wait for many hours, I restart my computer and return to the movie.  After that, I have no problem.  I&#039;m not a computer expert, so I don&#039;t know if this will work for you.  It&#039;s worth a shot.  At least it gets you your movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read all the comments but would like to tell you how I&#8217;ve solved this particular problem.  When the Netflix player tells me my connection speed is too slow, and I&#8217;ll have to wait for many hours, I restart my computer and return to the movie.  After that, I have no problem.  I&#8217;m not a computer expert, so I don&#8217;t know if this will work for you.  It&#8217;s worth a shot.  At least it gets you your movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-16128</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 22:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, hell.  Now I&#039;ve gone and made a complete ass out of myself.

Just ignore all that stuff at the bottom of my last post.  It&#039;s not important.  *winks*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, hell.  Now I&#8217;ve gone and made a complete ass out of myself.</p>
<p>Just ignore all that stuff at the bottom of my last post.  It&#8217;s not important.  *winks*</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-16127</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 22:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, under update #1:

&quot;That’s definitely a technical glitch and not Netflix leveling the hammer of streaming-justice against me as retribution for the article… god knows they are above that&quot;

Unless I&#039;m failing to understand your definition of sarcasm, you were at the very least playfully suggesting that Netflix was exacting vengeance against you.

Way to censor your blog, btw.  Someone might&#039;ve actually been able to get some use out of that Qwest correlation and my shitty performance even on the 360 which cleared up after an ISP change, and now they&#039;ll miss it because the comments were removed.  *claps* bravo  at least your theory is left unchallenged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, under update #1:</p>
<p>&#8220;That’s definitely a technical glitch and not Netflix leveling the hammer of streaming-justice against me as retribution for the article… god knows they are above that&#8221;</p>
<p>Unless I&#8217;m failing to understand your definition of sarcasm, you were at the very least playfully suggesting that Netflix was exacting vengeance against you.</p>
<p>Way to censor your blog, btw.  Someone might&#8217;ve actually been able to get some use out of that Qwest correlation and my shitty performance even on the 360 which cleared up after an ISP change, and now they&#8217;ll miss it because the comments were removed.  *claps* bravo  at least your theory is left unchallenged.</p>
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		<title>By: Riyad Kalla</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-16126</link>
		<dc:creator>Riyad Kalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 20:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel,

I&#039;m not sure which part of the article you&#039;re referring to -- I made no claim that Netflix is punishing me for the blog/article/etc. If you mean the sentence from Update #2, *you* came to that conclusion. I only reported what I saw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure which part of the article you&#8217;re referring to &#8212; I made no claim that Netflix is punishing me for the blog/article/etc. If you mean the sentence from Update #2, *you* came to that conclusion. I only reported what I saw.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-16102</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 18:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Retribution?  Are you serious?

Guy, Netflix has bigger fish to fry than some no-name blogger in an internet chock full of no-name bloggers.  They&#039;re not going to waste their time or energy setting up some kind of punishment system for people who complain about their service.  If they gave a damn enough about your article to take any personalized action whatsoever, they&#039;d make sure your service was superior so you&#039;d quit bitching and maybe retract some of your statements.

Really, just...  wow.

And I think maybe you should point the finger at your ISP-- the same one the other guy had problems with.  I had Qwest in Phoenix, and even on my 360 I had major problems with Netflix.  I know this doesn&#039;t add up to the cool conspiracy you were hoping for, but life is actually pretty boring.  I have Cox now, and I have no problems whatsoever.

Bottom line:  You&#039;re paranoid, Qwest sucks, and Netflix is just an entertainment company that doesn&#039;t give a damn about your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retribution?  Are you serious?</p>
<p>Guy, Netflix has bigger fish to fry than some no-name blogger in an internet chock full of no-name bloggers.  They&#8217;re not going to waste their time or energy setting up some kind of punishment system for people who complain about their service.  If they gave a damn enough about your article to take any personalized action whatsoever, they&#8217;d make sure your service was superior so you&#8217;d quit bitching and maybe retract some of your statements.</p>
<p>Really, just&#8230;  wow.</p>
<p>And I think maybe you should point the finger at your ISP&#8211; the same one the other guy had problems with.  I had Qwest in Phoenix, and even on my 360 I had major problems with Netflix.  I know this doesn&#8217;t add up to the cool conspiracy you were hoping for, but life is actually pretty boring.  I have Cox now, and I have no problems whatsoever.</p>
<p>Bottom line:  You&#8217;re paranoid, Qwest sucks, and Netflix is just an entertainment company that doesn&#8217;t give a damn about your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-15971</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 22:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Netflix account is a few years old.  I logged on using a new account less than a month old on the same computer and guess what? 

The new account had a higher download speed.  So one could strongly suggest that it was not my ISP but that it is Netflix that is throttling it&#039;s instant streaming. 

Also, the new account had movies available for immediate rental that my years old account displayed a short to long wait for.

For the nay-sayers who blame their ISP&#039;s, I would suggest considering that there may be other overlapping problems in your particular cases in addition to Netflix throttling their streaming. I use Netflix and feel it&#039;s the best out there for what it does (so far), but their business practices and openness do need improvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Netflix account is a few years old.  I logged on using a new account less than a month old on the same computer and guess what? </p>
<p>The new account had a higher download speed.  So one could strongly suggest that it was not my ISP but that it is Netflix that is throttling it&#8217;s instant streaming. </p>
<p>Also, the new account had movies available for immediate rental that my years old account displayed a short to long wait for.</p>
<p>For the nay-sayers who blame their ISP&#8217;s, I would suggest considering that there may be other overlapping problems in your particular cases in addition to Netflix throttling their streaming. I use Netflix and feel it&#8217;s the best out there for what it does (so far), but their business practices and openness do need improvement.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-15813</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 03:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watch ABC HD and Fox HD streams on a 2.6 mBps DSL Qwest connection. The video is close to broadcast quality. The Netflix Silverlite player is sub-par. Blotchy, noisy picture, and the server feed stops very often. I have to reload the browser to resume play back. I would say that Netflix has network/server capacity issues. They just signed-up too many people to please their stockholders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watch ABC HD and Fox HD streams on a 2.6 mBps DSL Qwest connection. The video is close to broadcast quality. The Netflix Silverlite player is sub-par. Blotchy, noisy picture, and the server feed stops very often. I have to reload the browser to resume play back. I would say that Netflix has network/server capacity issues. They just signed-up too many people to please their stockholders.</p>
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		<title>By: Netflix Bumps Blu-ray Access Price up 500% &#124; The "Break it Down" Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-15409</link>
		<dc:creator>Netflix Bumps Blu-ray Access Price up 500% &#124; The "Break it Down" Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the already impecable service we are receiving from Netflix, it looks like we are getting blessed with a price-hike as well for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Netflix Neutrality &#124; thelobbyist</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-15319</link>
		<dc:creator>Netflix Neutrality &#124; thelobbyist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] little over a week ago, Netflix was berated by a user who assumed that the company was throttling his streaming video connection.  Slashdot picked up the story shortly afterwards, and an Engadget piece was soon to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Netflix Neutrality&#160;&#124;&#160;OpenMarket.org</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-15318</link>
		<dc:creator>Netflix Neutrality&#160;&#124;&#160;OpenMarket.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] little over a week ago, Netflix was berated by a user who assumed that the company was throttling his streaming video connection.  Slashdot picked up the story shortly afterwards, and an Engadget piece was soon to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Netflix: ‘We’re not slowing our streams…yet’ &#124; RocketScience Network</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-15203</link>
		<dc:creator>Netflix: ‘We’re not slowing our streams…yet’ &#124; RocketScience Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been a lot of speculation about whether Netflix has been intentionally slowing its movie streaming service. As a subscriber who has experienced the recent slowdown, I also explored the notion in a post a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Netflix Denies Throttling Rumors, Passes Buck to ISPs</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-15200</link>
		<dc:creator>Netflix Denies Throttling Rumors, Passes Buck to ISPs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Some users of Netflix’s streaming service have groused about dwindling performance in recent times. The dip in performance has not only nettled users but also engendered speculation as to its cause. The most plausible conjecture is that video streams are being deliberately throttled by Netflix. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Some users of Netflix’s streaming service have groused about dwindling performance in recent times. The dip in performance has not only nettled users but also engendered speculation as to its cause. The most plausible conjecture is that video streams are being deliberately throttled by Netflix. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Netflix: &#8216;We&#8217;re not slowing our streams&#8230;yet&#8217; &#187; VentureBeat</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-15190</link>
		<dc:creator>Netflix: &#8216;We&#8217;re not slowing our streams&#8230;yet&#8217; &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been a lot of speculation about whether Netflix has been intentionally slowing its movie streaming service. As a subscriber who has experienced the recent slowdown, I also explored the notion in a post a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-15166</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just upgraded to silverlight becasue I was having problems with the older palyer not buffering and speeds to slow.
I noticed that some movies are not playing well while other are.
Anyone can test this next time they have problems try another Genre or other movies I have noticed the sometimes other movies will play fine after I get pissed off that I can&#039;t watch what I want. I noticed that the movies are being streamed from SOMESERVER-NUMBER.vo.llnwd.net . Depending on what server I attach to will vary my buffering speeds. I am thinking that limelight networks is either running out of bandwidth or the administrators are not maintinaing the servers correctly.
netflix-938.vo.llnwd.net (Don&#039;t remeber Movie) Painful slow /gave up..
netflix-405.vo.llnwd.net (Porkchop hill.) Painful slow, re-buffering
netflix-405.vo.llnwd.net  (Killro) Slow but took about 4 Min to buffer.
netflix-221.vo.llnwd.net  (Fire down below)SLow but took about 3 Min to buffer.
netflix-616.vo.llnwd.net  (Starship troopers) Buffer in 1 minnute and played right away.

I used firefox to allow me to look at the server the data was being transfered from on the bottom left.
This isn&#039;t a scientific study it is just something I noticed. I was curious if anyone else noticed this as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just upgraded to silverlight becasue I was having problems with the older palyer not buffering and speeds to slow.<br />
I noticed that some movies are not playing well while other are.<br />
Anyone can test this next time they have problems try another Genre or other movies I have noticed the sometimes other movies will play fine after I get pissed off that I can&#8217;t watch what I want. I noticed that the movies are being streamed from SOMESERVER-NUMBER.vo.llnwd.net . Depending on what server I attach to will vary my buffering speeds. I am thinking that limelight networks is either running out of bandwidth or the administrators are not maintinaing the servers correctly.<br />
netflix-938.vo.llnwd.net (Don&#8217;t remeber Movie) Painful slow /gave up..<br />
netflix-405.vo.llnwd.net (Porkchop hill.) Painful slow, re-buffering<br />
netflix-405.vo.llnwd.net  (Killro) Slow but took about 4 Min to buffer.<br />
netflix-221.vo.llnwd.net  (Fire down below)SLow but took about 3 Min to buffer.<br />
netflix-616.vo.llnwd.net  (Starship troopers) Buffer in 1 minnute and played right away.</p>
<p>I used firefox to allow me to look at the server the data was being transfered from on the bottom left.<br />
This isn&#8217;t a scientific study it is just something I noticed. I was curious if anyone else noticed this as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Sixth SenseS &#187; Netflix Throttling Instant Video Streaming Performance for PC &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sixth SenseS &#187; Netflix Throttling Instant Video Streaming Performance for PC &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Is Netflix putting caps on computer-based Watch Instantly users? &#124; Tech News 24/24 &#124; Reviews News,IPhone,Laptop,High Tech Services and More</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is Netflix putting caps on computer-based Watch Instantly users? &#124; Tech News 24/24 &#124; Reviews News,IPhone,Laptop,High Tech Services and More</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: So what if Netflix is throttling its streaming movies? &#187; VentureBeat</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/netflix-throttling-instant-video-streaming-performance-for-pc-viewers/comment-page-2/#comment-15009</link>
		<dc:creator>So what if Netflix is throttling its streaming movies? &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A possible culprit could be the switch to Microsoft&#8217;s Silverlight platform, but the folks at The &#8220;Break It Down&#8221; Blog are pointing to something a little more nefarious. You guessed it &#8212; bandwidth [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 02:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m using COX, stream quite a bit and have never had a buffer of over 5 seconds.  I do have a business account so mine supposedly COX lets me do whatever I want over it (if you read the TermsandConditions for the home accounts they have pretty strict stipulations for what they consider &#039;normal&#039; use.)

Just because opening additional connections to NETFLIX increases your bandwidth doesn&#039;t mean that its Netflix and not your ISP throttling the connection.  Perhaps your ISP is shaping each TCP connection to netflix, and not the aggregate of each outbound connection.  That would make more sense to me.  I&#039;m sure that Netflix may have problems from time to time, but such a consistent problem sounds like it has nothing to do with them when so many users aren&#039;t having problems.

Also about the XBOX, that is interesting.  Have you verified that its getting the video from the same source, taking the same path, or even downloading the video at the same bitrate?  It may not even be using port 80 or TCP for that matter and doesn&#039;t fit the (suspected) shaping rules that the ISP has in place.  Of course all of that is speculation as I don&#039;t have the time to pull out my network sniffer and play around with Netflix over Live however it seems as though there is the room for many variables which were untouched in your test that make comparing the xbox to pc streaming apples to oranges.  (I do know for a fact that the XBOX version is using Silverlight technology and not Windows Media)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using COX, stream quite a bit and have never had a buffer of over 5 seconds.  I do have a business account so mine supposedly COX lets me do whatever I want over it (if you read the TermsandConditions for the home accounts they have pretty strict stipulations for what they consider &#8216;normal&#8217; use.)</p>
<p>Just because opening additional connections to NETFLIX increases your bandwidth doesn&#8217;t mean that its Netflix and not your ISP throttling the connection.  Perhaps your ISP is shaping each TCP connection to netflix, and not the aggregate of each outbound connection.  That would make more sense to me.  I&#8217;m sure that Netflix may have problems from time to time, but such a consistent problem sounds like it has nothing to do with them when so many users aren&#8217;t having problems.</p>
<p>Also about the XBOX, that is interesting.  Have you verified that its getting the video from the same source, taking the same path, or even downloading the video at the same bitrate?  It may not even be using port 80 or TCP for that matter and doesn&#8217;t fit the (suspected) shaping rules that the ISP has in place.  Of course all of that is speculation as I don&#8217;t have the time to pull out my network sniffer and play around with Netflix over Live however it seems as though there is the room for many variables which were untouched in your test that make comparing the xbox to pc streaming apples to oranges.  (I do know for a fact that the XBOX version is using Silverlight technology and not Windows Media)</p>
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		<title>By: Same old Netflix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Same old Netflix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve noticed the same thing - and it has gotten worse in the last few weeks.  Today it appears Netflix dropped the bar graph from their site that allows customers to guage video performance.  It doesn&#039;t matter what time of day we&#039;re using it and it has nothing to do with our ISP or the route - which a few &quot;experts&quot; posting here suggested was the above author&#039;s problem.   While that can sometimes be the case, it&#039;s almost never the reason for consistent slow download speeds from one site if you are using a major service provider.  

We do not have hours of buffering time (usually less than a minute), but the video will often play at a reduced quality despite our fast cable connection speed from a leading provider.

I do believe Netflix is increasingly throttling our connection speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve noticed the same thing &#8211; and it has gotten worse in the last few weeks.  Today it appears Netflix dropped the bar graph from their site that allows customers to guage video performance.  It doesn&#8217;t matter what time of day we&#8217;re using it and it has nothing to do with our ISP or the route &#8211; which a few &#8220;experts&#8221; posting here suggested was the above author&#8217;s problem.   While that can sometimes be the case, it&#8217;s almost never the reason for consistent slow download speeds from one site if you are using a major service provider.  </p>
<p>We do not have hours of buffering time (usually less than a minute), but the video will often play at a reduced quality despite our fast cable connection speed from a leading provider.</p>
<p>I do believe Netflix is increasingly throttling our connection speed.</p>
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