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	<title>Comments on: Massive Confusion Over T-Mobile G1 Data Plan &#8220;Messages&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Riyad Kalla</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/massive-confusion-over-t-mobile-g1-data-plan-messages/comment-page-1/#comment-12440</link>
		<dc:creator>Riyad Kalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Todd if you are primarily on Google&#039;s services, it looks like Gmail and Gtalk are free, they won&#039;t eat into your count. I haven&#039;t gotten confirmation yet on non-Gmail email and from the research we&#039;ve done so far, it looks like non-Gtalk IM services are implemented with text messages (wth?) so those will eat into the count.

I&#039;d expect T-Mobile to get a clarification out in the next week after this mass-confusion online about this.

As far as T-Mobile, for what it&#039;s worth (keep in mind everyone always has their own story) I&#039;ve always enjoyed shenanigans-free service with them for the last 5 or 6 years that I&#039;ve been with them.

But as with anything I&#039;d encourage you to stick with whatever carrier you are either happy with or research supports; that&#039;s just 1 data point and may not reflect your own experience. (Incase you can&#039;t tell, I&#039;m not enamored with any big service companies...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Todd if you are primarily on Google&#8217;s services, it looks like Gmail and Gtalk are free, they won&#8217;t eat into your count. I haven&#8217;t gotten confirmation yet on non-Gmail email and from the research we&#8217;ve done so far, it looks like non-Gtalk IM services are implemented with text messages (wth?) so those will eat into the count.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d expect T-Mobile to get a clarification out in the next week after this mass-confusion online about this.</p>
<p>As far as T-Mobile, for what it&#8217;s worth (keep in mind everyone always has their own story) I&#8217;ve always enjoyed shenanigans-free service with them for the last 5 or 6 years that I&#8217;ve been with them.</p>
<p>But as with anything I&#8217;d encourage you to stick with whatever carrier you are either happy with or research supports; that&#8217;s just 1 data point and may not reflect your own experience. (Incase you can&#8217;t tell, I&#8217;m not enamored with any big service companies&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: marc mcdermott</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/massive-confusion-over-t-mobile-g1-data-plan-messages/comment-page-1/#comment-12438</link>
		<dc:creator>marc mcdermott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well to tell you the truth, between this &#039;could-be-suspicious&#039; marketing tactic and the poor experience i had with the CS rep who didnt seem to know what she was talking about, it made me want to avoid tmobile all together; not good first impressions.

so have we come to any 100% definite conclusion here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well to tell you the truth, between this &#8216;could-be-suspicious&#8217; marketing tactic and the poor experience i had with the CS rep who didnt seem to know what she was talking about, it made me want to avoid tmobile all together; not good first impressions.</p>
<p>so have we come to any 100% definite conclusion here?</p>
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		<title>By: Riyad Kalla</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/massive-confusion-over-t-mobile-g1-data-plan-messages/comment-page-1/#comment-12437</link>
		<dc:creator>Riyad Kalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Totally agree... just brought this conversation to a friend with the G1, he had no idea this was even under contention (and I believe IM&#039;s on alternative networks eating up his msg count).

We are hoping by drawing attention to this T-Mobile will clarify this FAQ for everyone involved.

Out of curiosity did this confusion almost push you to the $34.99/mo plan, or make you want to avoid a G1 data plan at all?

I wonder if there is an intentional marketing-smoke-screen strategy here by some overzealous marketing manager...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Totally agree&#8230; just brought this conversation to a friend with the G1, he had no idea this was even under contention (and I believe IM&#8217;s on alternative networks eating up his msg count).</p>
<p>We are hoping by drawing attention to this T-Mobile will clarify this FAQ for everyone involved.</p>
<p>Out of curiosity did this confusion almost push you to the $34.99/mo plan, or make you want to avoid a G1 data plan at all?</p>
<p>I wonder if there is an intentional marketing-smoke-screen strategy here by some overzealous marketing manager&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: marc mcdermott</title>
		<link>http://www.breakitdownblog.com/massive-confusion-over-t-mobile-g1-data-plan-messages/comment-page-1/#comment-12436</link>
		<dc:creator>marc mcdermott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am a potential new customer to tmobile and i find this confusion baffling.  i spoke with a CS rep at tmobile who said that email is not counted in the 400 minutes (which you have confirmed in this blog).

whoever wrote the plan description for this on the tmobile website should be shot.  doesnt have to be this confusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am a potential new customer to tmobile and i find this confusion baffling.  i spoke with a CS rep at tmobile who said that email is not counted in the 400 minutes (which you have confirmed in this blog).</p>
<p>whoever wrote the plan description for this on the tmobile website should be shot.  doesnt have to be this confusing.</p>
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