Comments on: Guitar Hero: World Tour Supports Any Electronic Drum Set with MIDI Port http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/ A technical, gaming and current-events news site Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:00:42 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: SethmeisterG http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-18602 SethmeisterG Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:39:12 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-18602 Hi, I'm the creator of the original standalone Rock Band EDRUM-USB adapter. It's super-compact and is the most feature-rich and cost-effective solution for rockin' out with Rock Band / Guitar Hero / DTXmania. Email me at rbusbadapter -at- gmail -do t- com for details. --s Hi,

I’m the creator of the original standalone Rock Band EDRUM-USB adapter. It’s super-compact and is the most feature-rich and cost-effective solution for rockin’ out with Rock Band / Guitar Hero / DTXmania. Email me at rbusbadapter -at- gmail -do t- com for details.

–s

]]> By: sean http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-17793 sean Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:40:38 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-17793 just spotted this, ive got a korg padkontrol on order could it just be as simple as mapping the midi notes to the correct colors ?? if so i cant wait to test it out :D finger drumming ftw just spotted this, ive got a korg padkontrol on order could it just be as simple as mapping the midi notes to the correct colors ?? if so i cant wait to test it out :D finger drumming ftw

]]> By: EviL http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-17052 EviL Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:30:20 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-17052 Thank you for the answer. I actually considered your HW, which is a nice workaround, but my question was hypothetical, because i don't have either a electronic drum set or a proprietary one, and i was considering, in case i buy something, what is the best thing to do. I would have liked to buy a real electronic drum set and somehow use it with the games, but for xbox i should also buy an additional rock band drum set and hack it. another solution i am considering is this: http://cgi.ebay.de/ION-Drum-Rocker-Premium-Set-Pro-Upgrade-w-Throne-XBOX_W0QQitemZ200312604072QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2ea38fc5a8&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177 it works with all rock bands, also with guitar hero (i hope) and would be a good funny starting point for take confidence with drums. the upgrade allows it to be a normal electronic drum set, whatever the quality since i never played a drum before. my biggest fear is the price. that one doesn't include shipping and most of all the duty cost USA to germany :( Thank you for the answer.
I actually considered your HW, which is a nice workaround, but my question was hypothetical, because i don’t have either a electronic drum set or a proprietary one, and i was considering, in case i buy something, what is the best thing to do.
I would have liked to buy a real electronic drum set and somehow use it with the games, but for xbox i should also buy an additional rock band drum set and hack it.
another solution i am considering is this:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ION-Drum-Rocker-Premium-Set-Pro-Upgrade-w-Throne-XBOX_W0QQitemZ200312604072QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2ea38fc5a8&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177
it works with all rock bands, also with guitar hero (i hope) and would be a good funny starting point for take confidence with drums.
the upgrade allows it to be a normal electronic drum set, whatever the quality since i never played a drum before.
my biggest fear is the price. that one doesn’t include shipping and most of all the duty cost USA to germany :(

]]> By: ByteArts http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-17050 ByteArts Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:03:19 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-17050 Unfortunately not. The Xbox only works with officially licensed controllers (the controller has a Microsoft encryption chip in it), so you have to have a Rock Band or Guitar Hero drum controller connected, or the game won't recognize the drums. The encryption is pretty robust, and AFAIK no one has "cracked" it. The Wii or Playstation don't have this limitation and so it is possible for third parties to make a controller. The MIDI Rocker LX (see www.bytearts.com/midi_lx) that I make can work with the PS2,PS3, Wii, and an Xbox360, but the Xbox configuration requires connecting to an Xbox Rock Band drum controller in order to satisfy the licensing requirements. I've contacted Microsoft on many occasions about obtaining a license, but the only response I've gotten was that they are not currently seeking any more licensees for music game controllers. -Scott (Byte Arts) Unfortunately not. The Xbox only works with officially licensed controllers (the controller has a Microsoft encryption chip in it), so you have to have a Rock Band or Guitar Hero drum controller connected, or the game won’t recognize the drums. The encryption is pretty robust, and AFAIK no one has “cracked” it.

The Wii or Playstation don’t have this limitation and so it is possible for third parties to make a controller.

The MIDI Rocker LX (see http://www.bytearts.com/midi_lx) that I make can work with the PS2,PS3, Wii, and an Xbox360, but the Xbox configuration requires connecting to an Xbox Rock Band drum controller in order to satisfy the licensing requirements.

I’ve contacted Microsoft on many occasions about obtaining a license, but the only response I’ve gotten was that they are not currently seeking any more licensees for music game controllers.

-Scott (Byte Arts)

]]> By: EviL http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-17044 EviL Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:12:55 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-17044 Hi, I saw this question asked many times and no one ever answered (I think many didn't understand the question). 1 - I have an electronic drum set with midi-out 2 - I DON'T want to buy the guitar hero or rock band drum set 3 - I have an xbox360 Is there a way to play with my electronic drum set at any of those games on xbox360 WITHOUT their proprietary drum set? Thanks Hi, I saw this question asked many times and no one ever answered (I think many didn’t understand the question).
1 – I have an electronic drum set with midi-out
2 – I DON’T want to buy the guitar hero or rock band drum set
3 – I have an xbox360
Is there a way to play with my electronic drum set at any of those games on xbox360 WITHOUT their proprietary drum set?
Thanks

]]> By: Christopher Groth http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-16665 Christopher Groth Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:59:48 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-16665 I just bought a Eastone PDK-8X drum kit with a midi-out port on the condition that it would work with Guitar Hero. Plugging it into the GuitarHero World Tour drums that I use with my Sont Playstation 3 console it works, almost. I cannot get GH to register the snare dum or the bass/kick drum. All the others work fine (not the hi-jat pedal, the ride or the third tom, but that was to be expected as they are not represented in the game). I have tried cycling through all voices, gain and volume settings, but to no avail. Has anyone had any success with this drum kit, or have any advice? Christopher I just bought a Eastone PDK-8X drum kit with a midi-out port on the condition that it would work with Guitar Hero. Plugging it into the GuitarHero World Tour drums that I use with my Sont Playstation 3 console it works, almost. I cannot get GH to register the snare dum or the bass/kick drum. All the others work fine (not the hi-jat pedal, the ride or the third tom, but that was to be expected as they are not represented in the game). I have tried cycling through all voices, gain and volume settings, but to no avail. Has anyone had any success with this drum kit, or have any advice? Christopher

]]> By: Dovydas http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-16448 Dovydas Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:58:43 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-16448 I maked video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=132WZiRUG90 This is my video, i am trying all drum kits, but in no one works all collors, always one or two collors dont work, in one drum set one collor works in other drum set no. With Rock Band all ok becouse there is one collor less, but in gh:wt i can make all collors working :/ I maked video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=132WZiRUG90 This is my video, i am trying all drum kits, but in no one works all collors, always one or two collors dont work, in one drum set one collor works in other drum set no. With Rock Band all ok becouse there is one collor less, but in gh:wt i can make all collors working :/

]]> By: Robert http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-16447 Robert Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:04:28 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-16447 Thanks to Jason's post above, I purchased the SD7K and it works great with GHWT on my Wii. The only thing I can't figure out is how to change the pad mappings. For example, I'd like the alter which symbol triggers orange in GH. I've tried changing the voice settings but that doesn't seem to do anything. It's as if I need to be able to change the actual MIDI note ouput that the various pads/symbols generate and I can't figure out how to do that. If anyone can shed light on this it would be appreciated. Even without better mappings, it's still a blast. Thanks to Jason’s post above, I purchased the SD7K and it works great with GHWT on my Wii. The only thing I can’t figure out is how to change the pad mappings. For example, I’d like the alter which symbol triggers orange in GH. I’ve tried changing the voice settings but that doesn’t seem to do anything. It’s as if I need to be able to change the actual MIDI note ouput that the various pads/symbols generate and I can’t figure out how to do that. If anyone can shed light on this it would be appreciated. Even without better mappings, it’s still a blast.

]]> By: nick.l http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-16259 nick.l Tue, 19 May 2009 19:40:33 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-16259 My friend has the guitar hero drums for the ps3. We want to use them as a midi controller. Is the midi on the back actually an out of any kind or is it just a tease. i've seen people converting it to usb but why would i use that horrible latency connection if i have a good audio card with midi in. My friend has the guitar hero drums for the ps3. We want to use them as a midi controller. Is the midi on the back actually an out of any kind or is it just a tease. i’ve seen people converting it to usb but why would i use that horrible latency connection if i have a good audio card with midi in.

]]> By: ByteArts http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-16120 ByteArts Mon, 11 May 2009 14:31:15 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-16120 I don't think it is possible to connect the GHWT drums to a PC since they use the Xbox wireless protocol which isn't supported on the PC (at least not without special hardware). You can connect a WIRED drumset (like RB1 drums). Our MIDI Rocker (http://www.bytearts.com/midi_lx/index.htm) can record the MIDI notes that it receives while connected to a PC. It's pretty handy for troubleshooting and setting up the drum brain. It does require a "modified" Rock Band drum controller to work with the Xbox though. I don’t think it is possible to connect the GHWT drums to a PC since they use the Xbox wireless protocol which isn’t supported on the PC (at least not without special hardware). You can connect a WIRED drumset (like RB1 drums).
Our MIDI Rocker (http://www.bytearts.com/midi_lx/index.htm) can record the MIDI notes that it receives while connected to a PC. It’s pretty handy for troubleshooting and setting up the drum brain. It does require a “modified” Rock Band drum controller to work with the Xbox though.

]]> By: OB http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-16116 OB Mon, 11 May 2009 01:53:57 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-16116 I have the GH:WT drum kit for 360. Is there a way to connect the kit to my computer (vista) so I can record the beats onto my computer? I only have a MIDI Input jack on the back of the set, not a MIDI output. Any help would be nice. Thanks. I have the GH:WT drum kit for 360. Is there a way to connect the kit to my computer (vista) so I can record the beats onto my computer? I only have a MIDI Input jack on the back of the set, not a MIDI output. Any help would be nice. Thanks.

]]> By: ByteArts http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-16026 ByteArts Wed, 06 May 2009 16:33:51 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-16026 There are several ways to use an instrument with a MIDI interface with Rock Band (or Guitar Hero) without having to buy the Guitar Hero drums. The MIDI Rocker (which I designed and sell) is one option. Google "MIDI drums rock band" and you'll several ideas. There are several ways to use an instrument with a MIDI interface with Rock Band (or Guitar Hero) without having to buy the Guitar Hero drums. The MIDI Rocker (which I designed and sell) is one option. Google “MIDI drums rock band” and you’ll several ideas.

]]> By: Poker http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-15991 Poker Mon, 04 May 2009 14:39:11 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-15991 Is it possible to use MIDI compatible drums without having to buy the Guitar Hero drums? Is it possible to use MIDI compatible drums without having to buy the Guitar Hero drums?

]]> By: Dovydas http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-15852 Dovydas Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:41:28 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-15852 Hello, i connected my drum kit, its working, but i have one problem, i cant make all colors working on one drum set, i set one drum set works all collors but dont work one collor, if i change drum set, other collor dont work, all works, i can change voices but no sense, same, any ideas? I will wait for your answer. Hello, i connected my drum kit, its working, but i have one problem, i cant make all colors working on one drum set, i set one drum set works all collors but dont work one collor, if i change drum set, other collor dont work, all works, i can change voices but no sense, same, any ideas? I will wait for your answer.

]]> By: Dovydas http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-15561 Dovydas Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:06:47 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-15561 I can buy drum kit here, but price is 150 pounds for drum kit in Lithuania, not for whole band set, but just for drum kit 150 pounds, but i ordered from ebay, xbox 360 drum kit module + MID connections, so just need to wait when it comes to me, and i can play with my Electronic Drum kit, thank you for helping, i will write you my experience with drum kit later :), bye bye. I can buy drum kit here, but price is 150 pounds for drum kit in Lithuania, not for whole band set, but just for drum kit 150 pounds, but i ordered from ebay, xbox 360 drum kit module + MID connections, so just need to wait when it comes to me, and i can play with my Electronic Drum kit, thank you for helping, i will write you my experience with drum kit later :) , bye bye.

]]> By: Life On Mars http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-15548 Life On Mars Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:52:36 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-15548 Dovydas, just wait some days. The GHWT Drum Kit will be available in Europe in late April. Dovydas, just wait some days. The GHWT Drum Kit will be available in Europe in late April.

]]> By: Dovydas http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-15273 Dovydas Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:37:15 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-15273 I see that if i want to play with my electronic drum kit i need to buy GH:WT drums set, i thought in first that MIDI IN is in the Drum Kit Unit: http://www.ipix.lt/desc/17944578/ ,and then i can buy this Unit seperately, but now that i know that MIDI IN is in the Drum Kit hardware, i cant buy that part, i need to buy all set, or is there any opinion? Cuz i am from Lithuania (poor country that was in Soviet Union) and here GH:WT drum set costs about 200$, so i dont want to pay them just for that i can play with my drum set, maybe i will check in Ebay. Thank you for helping me, if you have to say something more i will wait, bye for now. :) I see that if i want to play with my electronic drum kit i need to buy GH:WT drums set, i thought in first that MIDI IN is in the Drum Kit Unit: http://www.ipix.lt/desc/17944578/ ,and then i can buy this Unit seperately, but now that i know that MIDI IN is in the Drum Kit hardware, i cant buy that part, i need to buy all set, or is there any opinion? Cuz i am from Lithuania (poor country that was in Soviet Union) and here GH:WT drum set costs about 200$, so i dont want to pay them just for that i can play with my drum set, maybe i will check in Ebay. Thank you for helping me, if you have to say something more i will wait, bye for now. :)

]]> By: ByteArts http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-15272 ByteArts Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:54:33 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-15272 Dovydas - The GHWT drums have a MIDI IN interface -- you can connect the MIDI OUT from your drums to that and it should work with the Xbox 360. The MIDI IN on the GHWT drums doesn't appear to work with the Playstation. Dovydas -

The GHWT drums have a MIDI IN interface — you can connect the MIDI OUT from your drums to that and it should work with the Xbox 360.

The MIDI IN on the GHWT drums doesn’t appear to work with the Playstation.

]]> By: Dovydas http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-15252 Dovydas Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:13:15 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-15252 Hello again, i saw now that midi infterface isnt in GH:WT drum unit, its in the drums hardware, i thought that in drum unit, so its no use to buy now just drum unit, so maybe u can offer something for me without buyind GH:WT drum set, i have electronic drum kit with midi out, is there any possibilty to connecth to GH:WT? Hello again, i saw now that midi infterface isnt in GH:WT drum unit, its in the drums hardware, i thought that in drum unit, so its no use to buy now just drum unit, so maybe u can offer something for me without buyind GH:WT drum set, i have electronic drum kit with midi out, is there any possibilty to connecth to GH:WT?

]]> By: Dovydas http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-15246 Dovydas Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:19:27 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-15246 Sorry for the bad link, here is good http://www.ipix.lt/desc/17944578/ Sorry for the bad link, here is good http://www.ipix.lt/desc/17944578/

]]> By: Dovydas http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-15245 Dovydas Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:18:12 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-15245 Hello guys, i have Sesion Pro DD505 drum set, i am from Lithuania and sorry for my band english language, i want to ask something, if i buy this: http://i.ebayimg.com/08/!BNY!1Vg!Wk~$(KGrHgoOKj0EjlLmTLjuBJpV!BT-PQ~~_1.JPG then, connect my session drum kit with this unit and with xbox 360 it will work for Guitar hero: World Tour and Guitar Hero: Metallica, maybe u can tell me what to do? I have just electronic drum kit and xbox 360, i can buy MIDI to USB cabble, what i need to do to connect my electronic drum kit to xbox 360? Will it work like this: Session Pro DD505 -> GH:WT Drum Unit -> Xbox 360 thank you, i will wait for your answers. Hello guys, i have Sesion Pro DD505 drum set, i am from Lithuania and sorry for my band english language, i want to ask something, if i buy this: http://i.ebayimg.com/08/!BNY!1Vg!Wk~$(KGrHgoOKj0EjlLmTLjuBJpV!BT-PQ~~_1.JPG then, connect my session drum kit with this unit and with xbox 360 it will work for Guitar hero: World Tour and Guitar Hero: Metallica, maybe u can tell me what to do? I have just electronic drum kit and xbox 360, i can buy MIDI to USB cabble, what i need to do to connect my electronic drum kit to xbox 360? Will it work like this: Session Pro DD505 -> GH:WT Drum Unit -> Xbox 360 thank you, i will wait for your answers.

]]> By: ByteArts http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-14700 ByteArts Sat, 07 Mar 2009 17:32:23 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-14700 Stefan - Sorry, I should have clarified my answer. On the Wii, our device only works with Rock Band. Once they update Guitar Hero World Tour to work with wired drums (such as ION or RB drums), then our device will work. On the Playstation (2 or 3), our device works with both games (RB and GHWT) and supports all the features of the drums in each game. Stefan -

Sorry, I should have clarified my answer. On the Wii, our device only works with Rock Band. Once they update Guitar Hero World Tour to work with wired drums (such as ION or RB drums), then our device will work.

On the Playstation (2 or 3), our device works with both games (RB and GHWT) and supports all the features of the drums in each game.

]]> By: Stéfan http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-14668 Stéfan Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:13:12 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-14668 @ByteArts: I don't understand how the Midi Rocker interface works. Since it's MIDI to USB, how does it work with the Wii, since the GH official drumset in not plugged on the USB port, but wireless via the Wiimote bluebooth ? @ByteArts: I don’t understand how the Midi Rocker interface works. Since it’s MIDI to USB, how does it work with the Wii, since the GH official drumset in not plugged on the USB port, but wireless via the Wiimote bluebooth ?

]]> By: ByteArts http://www.breakitdownblog.com/guitar-hero-world-tour-supports-any-electronic-drum-set-with-midi-port/comment-page-1/#comment-14649 ByteArts Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:58:02 +0000 http://www.breakitdownblog.com/?p=3116#comment-14649 True - you can use the GHWT drum set as a MIDI interface, but it doesn't support the cymbals in Rock Band. Our device also includes the ability to switch note mappings "on-the-fly", assign notes to multiple outputs, or multiple outputs to the same note, and will emulate both the GHWT drums or the RB2 drums, and can be connected to a PC to load/save setups and examine the MIDI data. We also have a new lower-cost version (the MIDI Rocker LX) available at www.bytearts.com/midi_lx. The GHWT-MIDI interface is a great feature and may be all the some people need, but if you want to have a compact, simple and flexible device, which will be upgraded to support new features as they come out (like the 2nd pedal in RB), then I hope you'll consider the MIDI Rocker as an option. True – you can use the GHWT drum set as a MIDI interface, but it doesn’t support the cymbals in Rock Band. Our device also includes the ability to switch note mappings “on-the-fly”, assign notes to multiple outputs, or multiple outputs to the same note, and will emulate both the GHWT drums or the RB2 drums, and can be connected to a PC to load/save setups and examine the MIDI data. We also have a new lower-cost version (the MIDI Rocker LX) available at http://www.bytearts.com/midi_lx.

The GHWT-MIDI interface is a great feature and may be all the some people need, but if you want to have a compact, simple and flexible device, which will be upgraded to support new features as they come out (like the 2nd pedal in RB), then I hope you’ll consider the MIDI Rocker as an option.

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